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Buy and Sell - Public / Re: Wahoo KICKR Snap - Virtually brand New €350
« Last post by dom17 on 13, January, 2022, 10:07:50 PM »
Open to reasonable offers. You know you want to.
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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by nmcgreen on 13, January, 2022, 07:02:22 PM »
Hey John,


Completely understand what you are saying.


Like all sports MTB has a learning curve and its important to get the fundamentals in place to help progress. Personally I have made the mistake of just riding trails - never really sessioning sections and not working on skills. This has lead to me hitting a plateau and I am trying to change that. I am now looking to coaching to help address and my fundamentals that are no where as good as they need to be to progress they way that I want to. I am also starting to break down part of trails and do them again and again still I get them right.


One of the simplest and best things that I have come across in sports is the concept of the 'adventure zones'. No learning takes place in the panic zone - this is not where you need to be. All of our learning takes place when we push ourselves just outside of our comfort zone. This normally means learning a new skill on a trail that you are comfortable with and then stepping it up gradually. So if a trail is messing with your head, you are most likely in the panic zone - not a good place to be. Take a step back, work up to it and another day you will feel you can take on more.[size=78%]  [/size]




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My 2 cent you are a great place atm to be able to move forward and get over your frustrations. You have spotted some limitations and gaps in your ability (better than not knowing they are they and ending up in a heap!) and you are looking for a path to improve.


Also don't ever be worried about walking a section - everyone does it at some stage! :)

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I walked (again) 96% of that trail off the purple road we did on the Xmas cycle . I think there’s a smallish descent behind the coffee shop in ticknock I’ll start trying to “session”. I had the same fear of the drop on the couplet black trail (afterburner I think) for 6 months - but now I can handle that. I hope descents don’t take the same amount of months !!!! Thanks


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John, that trail off the purple road is quite a difficult trail, so you shouldn't beat yourself up about it.

The natural trail we did earlier in that spin (the trail we did after sateelite run, cant remember the name) would be a much better trail for you to practise on. It will get you used to the natural trails and the you can build up your confidence to go for the more difficult natural trails

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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by TooOld4This on 12, January, 2022, 04:21:24 PM »
John,
If you feel you are hitting a wall on your own then you could always look into getting a lesson or two.
The biking.ie lads do lessons for all levels and if you need a specific area you need to work on they can do private lessons.

I know some people in the club have gotten a lessons session together in the past.
Maybe a few other members might be interested in doing a session together.
Thanks Dave. I have looked a few times at that - but they seem to be infrequent. Deffo on bucket list though.


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I just saw biking.ie have a session on this Saturday - Gonna give that a shot Dave !!!
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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by Liam Phelan on 11, January, 2022, 03:05:34 PM »
I've always found that the amount that your fitness level effects your riding is often underestimated.


When I'm tired or just unfit I'm all over the place on trails, no amount of skills or practice will help. But when the fitness is up and I'm on form, I'm like a different rider.
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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by TooOld4This on 10, January, 2022, 09:55:52 PM »
John,
If you feel you are hitting a wall on your own then you could always look into getting a lesson or two.
The biking.ie lads do lessons for all levels and if you need a specific area you need to work on they can do private lessons.

I know some people in the club have gotten a lessons session together in the past.
Maybe a few other members might be interested in doing a session together.
Thanks Dave. I have looked a few times at that - but they seem to be infrequent. Deffo on bucket list though.


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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by frankgalan on 10, January, 2022, 09:29:00 PM »
Steep stuff used to be my nemesis too. I think I actually sessioned that little descent behind the hut when I was trying to get over it too. I think the most important thing when looking for one to session is that it's fairly straight with a gentle run out. That way there's nothing to catch you out if you do start to lose control, you can just trust that you'll be fine if you point it straight down.


Technique-wise, there's a couple of things that can help with steep stuff, but I think the most important is having a good position on the bike. In particular, being able to hinge at the hip. This will actually help with almost everything you do on the bike, but I found it particularly useful when trying to stay in control on very steep trails. Here's a really good video on the subject.
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Great video, I'm a big fan of these two, thanks for sharing
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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by Dave Egan on 10, January, 2022, 09:13:13 PM »
John,
If you feel you are hitting a wall on your own then you could always look into getting a lesson or two.
The biking.ie lads do lessons for all levels and if you need a specific area you need to work on they can do private lessons.

I know some people in the club have gotten a lessons session together in the past.
Maybe a few other members might be interested in doing a session together.
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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by saccades on 10, January, 2022, 07:16:40 PM »
My tongue was firmly in my cheek there Steve, we both have v similar viewpoints  ;)



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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by DerMot on 10, January, 2022, 03:13:46 PM »
I'll see if I can organise a spin around a place I know that's ace for sessioning simple drops, did something similar before at the Epic race course and I know several people loved that session.

It's nothing scary (or else I wouldn't be doing it), but it has some blind crests, chutes and small (<8") drops plus some steeper tech descents. Once happy there we can do a follow up session on the race course and can show you how to stitch things together.

YES PLEASE !!!!!


This would be a great soin actually.


It always help to session bits.  Then nail it.


Watch a YT video of some kids hitting stuff.  Anytime they came off they got straight back up and tried again the same bit. Sessioning works, especially when there are others to help point out thungs to change.  Also riding a section while recording it on your phone helps to see what worked / didn't work.



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General Discussion - Public Forum / Re: Getting v frustrated
« Last post by Stephen McMullan on 10, January, 2022, 03:01:28 PM »
"MTB is very much a skills based activity. You can drop €10k on a bike but it won't improve your skill €0.01"

This is a little bit of a lie - modern long, low & slack (LLS) bikes are massively confidence inspiring compared to the stuff even 10 years ago.

Its not much of a lie Ian. We're not exactly talking about Rampage lines here.

It's all in the head i.e. the frustration - that's the point I was addressing. I normally look to my head first, then skills, then equipment....(which is why I still ride my hardtail...I never got past the skills bit)

Attitude counts for a lot in my book. I tend to focus on and remember the stuff I do well during a spin (even if its just one solitary thing) and not dwell too much on/forget the things I do badly and certainly not blame the trail or the weather or ...whatever. I tend to go "oh well, next time I guess" and move on to the next trail quite a lot.

That'll sort out the frustration aspect...skills and bikes sure...but they do take a bit more time and €€€€ to acquire - the head stuff can generally be done relatively quickly and for free
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